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long story short,

Been talking to this girl for a while, wasnt even at all on a dating sort of tip( or not that I was thinking to seriously date her or anything), just hanging out a few times.


Well shes always giving me complements, and I just got the vibe that she was into me, and hell she is nice enough ya know.

The other night we go out for her birthday( i got her a small gift) - drinks and dancing, we end up kissing on the dance floor just a bit ( she was sort of drunk)

get back and I ask if I can crash because I live another 25 mins away. Shes cool with it, prepares the spare bed, at which point i say i want to sleep in the same bed with her - then I say how about continuing that kiss.

Which she replies with she didnt want to confuse me, and didnt mean to sort of thing - drunk etc.

Im like ok, well i say its no so serial, lets just do it a bit more. She basically says no, because Im not going to want to stop there.

And that if she did just sleep with someone, it needs to be really serial or I need to be trash - as in she can just stop talking to me the day after. But she wants to still be friends with me or something and she goes on about me not being serial about saying I like her because its so early, and i dont know much about her ( sort of true) and Im just saying all this nice stuff to sleep with her.

I was a bit insulted her saying Im not trashy enough to sleep with her, but I guess im not serial enough either - ( granted shes right we only knew each other 2 weeks)

in the end she says lets just cuddle and sleep, and if im not cool with that I can sleep on the other bed. Well after about 15 mins of sitting there next to her, I just got dressed and left - told her I wasnt sleepy at all ( did have two cups of coffee since getting back)

so since this all happened, its like the fact she didnt let me sleep with her has made me start thinking serial about her now

Part of her plan? or Was I just flat out rejected?

I'm no grand wizard sorta genius at this stuff but uh



so she didn't let you smash and you took it as rejection for wanting to date you? (i'm not seeing anything about dating) or wanting to smash you?
i'm sure the latter was answered

I think you need to date around or directly ask her about whatever it is your looking for
or chill just chill

Just my two cents on this. Whenever I really like a girl (a cool girl I really want to date, not just X), I try to hold off on the sex as long as possible. Definitely not for any moral reasons, but mostly just because:

1) I believe that one-night stands can't develop into meaningful relationships
2) I've found that hooking up with a subject too soon results in a shorter relationship with said subject
3) It's actually pretty fun to hold off and have said subject begging for the d.

My last girlfriend was literally begging to X on the 5th or 6th date but I was like yo we can hold off just a bit longer and still fuck about but not X. By the time you finally do X, it's awesome. We ended up dating for a year and only broke up cause she had to dip back to d mother country.

This does not apply to subjects you just want to X and can't foresee dating. This should be approached with efficiency in mind.

Unless that was some wicked strong coffee (and the subject was too sleepy to conversate), I probably wouldn't have dipped (if I indeed liked the subject) Not a good look imo.

yes I think she might be a keeper for a change, I cant really think of the last girl I hung out with and didnt sleep with within in three dates - as in with my record, if we hang out more than 3 or so times and I havent done anything - then nothing ever happens.

But hell, last 10 or so of these chicks never got serial - so I know I should hold off on that as well

she sounds classier than the last 10 or so

THIS^

You got rejected, move on.

In my harsh opinion...
She thinks youre "harmless" thats why she has kept you around. A lot of girls keep guys around that they have no intention of ever sleeping with because they love the attention. She says it needs to be serial or you need to be trash? By "trash" she means "really hot", she said trash as to not offend you, and to make herself better about letting you down.



1) not true
2) definitely not true
3) Holding off is never "fun", sex is fun.

maybe both of these are hold true?

Which puts me in the spot of - dont play any games and just talk to her like normal

or

not making the next move

I wouldn't waste your time / energy with it anymore bro